She was EleanorвЂ™s secretary one time until she found out-Eleanor found out-she was having an affair with Franklin Roosevelt and fired her in 1917, something like that.вЂќ But it was certainly an emotional-yeah, Lucy Mercer Rutherfurd was her name. Of course, you know, he was handicapped from the waist down, so you donвЂ™t know what he could do emotionally, as far as his physicality. Shirley: вЂњYes, oh sure, the press knew about it. Jeffrey: вЂњDid the press know about it or did they cover it up?вЂќ Jeffrey: вЂњWas there any scandal at the time about that, the fact that-вЂќ So, she went down surreptitiously to visit FDR and she was with him. But her secret trip was actually arranged by RooseveltвЂ™s daughter. She was down there visiting him, unbeknownst to Eleanor, of course. Jeffrey: вЂњWhen he was down there in Warm Springs, when he died, was there a woman with him?вЂќ In fact, he went to Hyde Park, something like 1,000 times during his presidency, always in the Ferdinand Magellan.вЂќ That was his favorite club car and he used it many, many times. She actually flew down to Warm Springs so she could ride the funeral train back in the Ferdinand Magellan. Jeffrey: вЂњAnd Eleanor, his wife, was not with him.вЂќ The last words he ever uttered were, вЂI think I have a headache.вЂ™ Then he collapsed and was taken into his bedroom where he succumbed about two or three hours later.вЂќ He saw his doctor that morning and his doctor said he looked healthy and chipper and well and then later that morning, he had a terrible stroke. It had been there from the 1800s and he was posing for pictures-I mean, posing for drawings and was reviewing his mail. And, of course, there was the Roosevelt family homestead there, too. It was a sanitarium for polio survivors and he went down there every chance he went. He went to Warm Springs often because, of course, there was a sanitarium there with natural, bubbling, warm spring waters and he thought it might relieve him of the polio he had. Shirley: вЂњWell, he was posing for pictures. Jeffrey: вЂњOnly two months after that meeting in Yalta, FDR went down to his retreat in Warm Springs, Georgia. As brilliant as FDR was as a wartime commander, on this one he gets, in my book, he gets a grade F.вЂќ But they lived from 1945 up until 1987-88 in stark terror and death and destruction. He had no claim on them and we let people live in agony and horrors for fifty-some-odd years until Reagan freed the Eastern European countries and the Warsaw Pact countries. We had no right to give them up to Stalin. We gave up whole chunks of Eastern Europe. Jeffrey: вЂњSo, diplomatically, was Yalta a victory for Stalin?вЂќ And if you hit metal, then pull back.вЂ™ That was his philosophy: Always on offense, always advancing, especially after the German advance on the Soviet Union.вЂќ But he had a saying one time: He said, вЂIf you stick the bayonet in and you hit mush, keep pushing farther. And why FDR agreed to it? I know he had staff around him that was soft on Stalin. We were supplying everybody with arms and foodstuffs. Actually, we were fighting the Romanians, too. вЂњI mean, look, for all intents and purposes, FDR was president of the world in April of 1945. And why they went there to be berated by Stalin is-I have no idea why. Of course, it was a dilapidated old villa left over from the czars.В And it hadnвЂ™t been taken care of and it hadnвЂ™t been kept up. What happened there?вЂќД¬raig Shirley: вЂњWell, that was of course, Yalta, which, you know, I always thought, Terry, why FDR agreed to travel ten thousand miles and live with-he and his staff-lousy accommodations, lousy housing. But back in February 1945, the leaders of the United States, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union met in the Crimea. Terry Jeffrey: вЂњHi and welcome to this edition of вЂOnline with Terry Jeffrey.вЂ™ Our guest today is historian and author Craig Shirley, who has published numerous best-selling books including, вЂRendezvous with Destiny: Ronald Reagan and the Campaign That Changed America,вЂ™ вЂMary Ball Washington: The Untold Story of George WashingtonвЂ™s Mother,вЂ™ and вЂDecember 1941: 31 Days That Changed America and Saved the World.вЂ™ Today, we are going to talk to him about his new book, вЂApril 1945: The Hinge of History.вЂ™ Craig, in recent days, the Ukraine and the Crimean Peninsula have been in the news a great deal. In his interview with, Shirley talked about that global war and how it changed history:

вЂњWe were truly involved in a global war,вЂќ said Shirley.

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